Clojurians Log v2

Hi! I'm looking for a nvim plugin to manage sexps. I tried https://github.com/vim-scripts/paredit.vim it's super useful but I found a problem (not sure if I'm using it wrong or if it's a bug) When I delete until the end of line inside of a string inside of a vector I end up with unbalanced brackets.

[:p "If I press D here | paredit will do this"] -> [:p "If I press D here"

I use parinfer-rust myself

that along with Plug 'guns/vim-sexp', {'for': 'clojure'} and Plug 'tpope/vim-sexp-mappings-for-regular-people', {'for': 'clojure'}

Hey Dave, stop copying me 😛

Can I copy you?

oh, okay then 😄

😛

My vimrc in all it's magnificant glory(*) can be found here: <https://github.com/dharrigan/vimconfig>

(*) == or maybe not 🙂

I'll read the docs, try it and might come later with questions 😄 I'm trying to use vscode + vscode-neovim

oh, no guarantees then. I have never used vscode with neovim

Me neither 😛

I think vscode + calva (the clojure plugin) does the balancing

have you tried calva?

Calva's paredit and vim don't get along well

you can mess everything up in normal mode

I usually use emacs with evil and my parens are under control there 😄

if you ever have unbalanced parens but your plugins won’t let you input them (this happens to me sometimes with vim-sexp and vim-sexp-mappings), CTRL-V in insert mode will “force” input of the character without triggering/respecting mappings

:help i_CTRL-V: The characters typed right after CTRL-V are not considered for mapping.

Good to know! Another little trick I use in a situation like that is to go to another instance of the character I want to insert but can't (e.g. a close paren), go into visual mode to copy it (`vy`), and the paste it wherever I want it to go with p.

yeah that’s another good method, especially if you need to paste multiple parens

If ever I find myself in that situation (which is rarer now since I've got used to how parinfer-rust works), I just exit, load up vi, without any plugins, do a bit of editing, save and open again in vim 🙂

love that solution, lol

Other strategies I’ve used for a quick fix.

; ) then delete the ;

g/vim -u NONE will load vim with no plugins

oh that’s a good one too

Or ")" then remove the quotes.

I think it's been well over 1 year since I had to do my trick

once you get into the flow of how parinfer-rust, etc., work, then you sorta just forget about the parens etc..

it just works(tm)

You've all effectively demonstrated why paredit can't really guarantee balanced parens 😜

lol if you count just adding as many parens as necessary to the last line of a file, it def can 🥴

haha I would yank 1 char from another closing paren and paste it

while we are talking about balanced parens... what is the best choice these days for auto-closing parenthesis/braces/strings? I've tried a couple recently, and they are broken in different but pretty bad ways : (

https://github.com/jiangmiao/auto-pairs has served me well. I haven't looked into any of the alternatives, though.

i somehow have autopairs but have no idea what makes them happen lmao

I just realized that I have autopairs disabled for Clojure and other Lisps:

augroup autopairs_config
  " disable auto-pairs for lisp -- it interferes with parinfer
  autocmd Filetype lisp,scheme,clojure,lfe let b:AutoPairs = {}
augroup END

Which makes sense, because Parinfer does this for you.

autopairs works great for other languages, though!

vim-sexp comes with insert mapping to autoclose parens https://github.com/guns/vim-sexp/blob/master/README.markdown#insert-mode-mappings-insert

surely it's easier to type in 8 a Ctrl-V )

Idk how to count, I gotta go one at a time

oh, you mean a Ctrl-V ) followed by . until you are done? 😄

Haha yeah, or v y followed by p until I’m done

:ParinferOff is another possibility 🙂

I use AutoPairs and not parinfer, but had to tweak it a bit for Clojure:

" Don't automatically insert closing ' or `
let b:AutoPairs = {'(':')', '[':']', '{':'}','"':'"'}

hm, auto-pairs was the last one I had enabled, and I can't remember why exactly, but I removed it. Will give it a spin again, thanks!